Monday, August 10, 2009

Conversation with Mohamadan Idiot Named Mohammad Irfaan

For the amusement of the readers, I present my dialogue from Facebook with a Mohamadan moron calling himself Mohammad Irfaan. I have not changed any of his statements nor any of mine. The errors in capitalization, grammar and punctuation, faulty logic and denial of reality presented below are all his own.

Mohammad Irfaan
July 10 at 7:00am
"Bismillah-Hir-Rahman-Nir-Rahim - In the Name of Allah The Most Kind the Most Mercificul.

"I would like to invite you to the Faith of Islam - The Solution for Humanity!"

Charles Kastriot
July 10 at 10:36am
"In the name of the dignity, liberty and equality of every human being, I invite you to renounce Islam- The Scourge of Humanity!"

Mohammad Irfaan
July 13 at 1:10am

"Islam is Dignity, liberty and Equality!!!"

Charles Kastriot
July 15 at 9:29pm
"Mohamad (MHBHF) declared that women are inherently inferior in Koran, Chapter Four. He also mandated subserviant status for non-Mohamadans in Koran, Chapter Nine. Therefore, equality of all humans is not possible under Islam.

"Liberty for Mohamadans to renounce Islam under Sharia or question Islamic doctrines does not exist. Apostacy is punished by execution. The freedom to create laws on the consensus of the governed is the antithesis of Islam. Islam is the whole world conforming to the whims and opinions of Mo (MHBHF). Thus, liberity is not possible under Islam.

"The only dignity accorded to anyone under Islam is to the clerics who emulate Mo(MHBHF) and the goons that enforce the tyrannical reign of Islamic regimes. Women have no such luxury;they have to hope that none of their hair peeks through their oppressive outfits or that no one rapes them. Otherwise they face floggings or stonings. These exist in addition to the dehumanizing Islamic practices of polygyny, female genital mutilation and wife-beating. There is no dignity under Islam for women and girls."

Mohammad Irfaan
July 16 at 2:41am

"Hey Charles, it seems you your not bright enough nor literate enough to understand the Qur'an. Al-Mighty Allah Tala has put a balance between men and women. If so, for the sake of the argument, why don't say FIFA have men playing women in football, why don't you see boxing matches being fought between men and women - wherez equality in that!

"the Qur'an has an absolute balance between men and women, some areas where men have more share, and some where women have a higher share, it completly addes to equality between both sexes.

"You guys (western) actually downgrade your women, you sell your mothers, daughters, wife's and sisters to people, advertise them almost naked, Islam respects them, covers them and gives total protection, thats why 2/3 of people accpeting Islam in America are women - WHY?"

Charles Kastriot
July 19 at 8:33am
"It seems you are so blinded by your brainwashing that you cannot see the inferor status of women under Islam. If they are equal under Islam, why cannot a women have multiple husbands but a man can have multiple wives? Why does a woman only receive half of a share of inheritance while a man receives a whole share? Why is the testimony of one man equal the testimony of two women? Name one specific area in which have more privilege than a man under Islam.

"You refuse to see how Islam degrades women. How is respectful of women to force them to wear black, suffocating clothing, especially in desert climates? Why are you Mohamadans so threatened by seeing such benign images such as a woman's face, hair or ankle? The answer lies in the fact that Mohamadans only view women and girls as their inferior servants (family members) or potential sexual objects (all other women in the world).

"There is no protection for sexually exploited women under Islam. If a woman is raped, she must provide four witness of the rape to exonerate herself. If not, she faces execution. If four men witness a rape and do nothing to stop it, they are either accomplices or too cowardly to testify against the rapist(s) anyway.

"Under Western laws, it is illegal to sell any human being. Under Islam women and girls are regularly sold by their families, often pre-teen girls are sold to men in their thirties and forties. Pedophilia is a crime in the Free World; in the Islamic bloc, it is accepted as another way to emulate Mohamad (MHBHF). Under Islam, enslavement of non-Mohamadans is condoned; in the civilized world, enslavement of anyone was outlawed two centuries ago.

"As for your argument about segregation of women and men in soccer and boxing, that is done for competitive balance. The same reason exists for the various weight classifications dividing men in boxing. Officials want a fight to be determined based on skill, not sheer size. That is why a hundred kilogram man does not fight a seventy kilogram man. Also, twelve year old boys do not compete in the same leagues as twenty-five year old men. It is a matter of physical maturity and length of time spent in training. At least women are free to compete openly in soccer, boxing and other sports in the Free World. That is not the case in the Islamic bloc.

"Obviously your Islamic indoctrination of relying on the Koran and Hadiths for all of life's questions has destroyed any mental capacity for you to determine answers on your own. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Only you can liberate your brain from the cancer called Islam.

"Who says two-thirds of people converting to Islam are women? Name your source. This sounds like typical Islamic phony propaganda. While you search for an objective source for that, find out how many women renounce Islam once they arrive in the Free World. Their numbers continue to grow without much publicity."

Mohammad Irfaan
July 20 at 3:33am

"I'm Impressed by your words but not Influenced at all!

"Regards to the women being degraded etc by Islam - trust me your under a huge illusion. The Question of Hijab: Suppression Or Liberation?

"'Why do Muslim women have to cover their heads?' This question is one which is asked by Muslim and non-Muslim alike. For many women it is the truest test of being a Muslim so your no the only one.

"The answer to the question is very simple - Muslim women observe HIJAB (covering the head and the body) because Allah has told them to do so.

"'O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women to draw their outer garments around them (when they go out or are among men). That is better in order that they may be known (to be Muslims) and not annoyed...' [Noble Quran 33:59]"

"PLEASE CONTINUE TO READ...

"Other secondary reasons include the requirement for modesty in both men and women. Both will then be evaluated for intelligence and skills instead of looks and sexuality. An Iranian school girl is quoted as saying, 'We want to stop men from treating us like sex objects, as they have always done. We want them to ignore our appearance and to be attentive to our personalities and mind. We want them to take us seriously and treat us as equals and not just chase us around for our bodies and physical looks.' A Muslim woman who covers her head is making a statement about her identity. Anyone who sees her will know that she is a Muslim and has a good moral character. Many Muslim women who cover are filled with dignity and self esteem; they are pleased to be identified as a Muslim woman. As a chaste, modest, pure woman, she does not want her sexuality to enter into interactions with men in the smallest degree. A woman who covers herself is concealing her sexuality but allowing her femininity to be brought out.

"Islam has no fixed standard as to the style of dress or type of clothing that Muslims must wear. However, some requirements must be met. The first of these requirements is the parts of the body which must be covered. Islam has two sources for guidance and rulings: first, the Quran, the revealed word of Allah and secondly, the Hadith or the traditions of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) who was chosen by Allah to be the role model for mankind.

"Often forgotten is the fact that modern Western dress is a new invention. Looking at the clothing of women as recently as seventy years ago, we see clothing similar to Hijab. These active and hard-working women of the West were not inhibited by their clothing which consisted of long, full dresses and various types of head covering. Muslim women who wear Hijab do not find it impractical or interfering with their activities in all levels and walks of life. Hijab is not merely a covering dress but more importantly, it is behavior, manners, speech and appearance in public. Dress is only one facet of the total being. The basic requirement of the Muslim woman's dress apply to the Muslim man's clothing with the difference being mainly in degree. Modesty requires that the area between the navel and the knee be covered in front of all people except the wife. The clothing of men should not be like the dress of women, nor should it be tight or provocative. A Muslim should dress to show his identity as a Muslim. Men are not allowed to wear gold or silk. However, both are allowed for women.

"For both men and women, clothing requirements are not meant to be a restriction but rather a way in which society will function in a proper, Islamic manner."

Mohammad Irfaan
July 20 at 3:47am

"At a time when the rest of the world, from Greece and Rome to India and China, considered women as no better than children or even slaves, with no rights whatsoever, Islam acknowledged women's equality with men in a great many respects. The Quran states:

"'And among His signs is this: that He created mates for you from yourselves that you may find rest and peace of mind in them, and He ordained between you love and mercy. Certainly, herein indeed are signs for people who reflect.' [Noble Quran 30:21]

"Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) said:

"'The most perfect in faith amongst believers is he who is best in manners and kindest to his wife.' [Abu Dawud]

"With regard to education, both women and men have the same rights and obligations. This is clear in Prophet Muhammad's saying:

"'Seeking knowledge is mandatory for every believer.' [Ibn Majah]

"A woman is to be treated as God has endowed her, with rights, such as to be treated as an individual, with the right to own and dispose of her own property and earnings, enter into contracts, even after marriage. She has the right to be educated and to work outside the home if she so chooses. She has the right to inherit from her father, mother, and husband.

"Before marriage, a woman has the right to choose her husband. Islamic law is very strict regarding the necessity of having the woman's consent for marriage. The groom gives a marriage dowry to the bride for her own personal use. She keeps her own family name, rather than taking her husband's. As a wife, a woman has the right to be supported by her husband even if she is already rich. She also has the right to seek divorce and custody of young children. She does not return the dowry, except in a few unusual situations.

"Despite the fact that in many places and times Muslim communities have not always adhered to all or even many of the foregoing in practice, the ideal has been there for 1,400 years, while virtually all other major civilizations did not begin to address these issues or change their negative attitudes until the 19th and 20th centuries, and there are still many contemporary civilizations which have yet to do so.

"Finally...

"The issue of women in Islam, is topic of great misunderstanding and distortion due partly to a lack of understanding, but also partly due to misbehavior of some Muslims which has been taken to represent the teachings of Islam!"

Charles Kastriot
July 21 at 9:04am
"If you know Islam as well as you claim, you know that hadiths are disputed by various sects and schools of Islam. Some hadiths are labeled sound by some groups but others call the same hadiths false. All of sects and schools consider the Koran is the ultimate source of Islamic doctrine. In the fourth chapter of the Koran appropriately titled 'Women', Mohamad (May he burn in hell forever) clearly states that women are inherently inferior to men and that a man is permitted to beat his multiple wives. Any Mohamadan man who takes multiple wives and beats them is not misunderstanding or distorting Islam. On the contrary, he is emulating Mo (MHBHF) who the Koran states is the paragon and example of ideal human behavior.

"As for oppressive clothing required for women, why must women suffer in suffocating outfits? Men can control their thoughts and actions in regards to women. Even if a women completely hides herself in the outfits identical to a tent, a man can still view her as a sexual object. No amount of hiding herself under layer upon layer of clothing by a woman can make men stop viewing her as a carnal outlet for their sexual gratification. The problem of objectivication of women and girls lies in the minds of sexually compulsive men like Mo (MHBHF).

"On what basis do you claim that a DEITY ordered that women must wear suffocating outfits? It was Mo (MHBHF) that uttered those words recorded in the Koran. He alone claimed to receive those commandments. None of his contemporaries heard any divine voices telling them to how to think or act. There is zero independent corroboration of any divine origin of any of Mo(MHBHF)'s fabrications.

"Can you not see that Mo (MHBHF) was a charlatan who eventually deluded enough people to rise to the level of a dictator? He conveniently received exemptions to rules to which everyone else had to comply. He could have an unlimited number of wives; other men had a four wife limit. Mo (MHBHF) was entitled to twenty percent of the booty from his lackeys robbing other tribes; everyone else settled for smaller shares, even though they actually risked their lives to commit the crimes and Mo (MHBHF) just gave orders. After seeing the wife of his adopted son undresing and he started lusting for her, he just so happened to receive a self-serving alleged "revelation" so he could seize another man's wife for Mo(MHBHF)'s own exploitation.

"(MHBHF) was nothing more than sexually-obsessed, megalomaniacal, evilly manipulative child molester. He exploited the gullibility, greed and superstitious beliefs of ignorant people around him then built up a totalitarian regime with himself wielding the sole position of power. He stands in a long line of similar despots throughout history such as Adolf Hitler, Genghis Khan, Joseph Stalin, Napoleon Bonaparte and other self-appointed so-called "prophets" espousing new ideologies who morphed into absolute tyrants.

Mohammad Irfaan
July 23 at 3:40am

"Hey Charles - seriously I do not know where you get your false sources from.. regards to man beating his wife is totally against Islam - Our Beloved Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessing Be Upon him InshAllah) always learned us to love and care for the wives.

"Regarding the cover up of Muslim Women, every Muslim women whom covers does it so by its own personal DESIRE.. its not that if you don't cover you will get killed or beated to death - But Islam order a women to cover up, shez allowed to show her face, hands and ankles - So i don't see where she suffocates!

"A wife (women) can earn as much as she wants and spend it where ever she prefers, according to Islam the women does not need to share money or her finance with her husband, but the Husband has been given the duty to provide full financial support to his wife - Therefore here the women is given huge respect, as the man takes the financial burden!

"Regarding Muhammad Peace and Blessing Be Upon Him InshAllah...

"Almost everyone on the earth today is discussing Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him. People want to know, 'Who was he exactly?' 'What did he teach?' 'Why was he loved so much by some and hated so much by others?' 'Did he live up to his claims?' 'Was he a holy man?' 'Was he a prophet of God?' 'What is the truth about this man - Muhammad?'

"How can we discover the truth and be totally honest in our judgment?

"We will begin with the very simple historical evidences, facts as narrated by thousands of people, many of whom knew him personally. The following is based on books, manuscripts, texts and actual eyewitness accounts, too numerous list herein, yet all have been preserved in original form throughout the centuries by both Muslims and non-Muslims.

"Muhammad ibn (son of) Abdullah ibn (son of) Abdul Mutalib, was born in the year 570 C.E. (Christian Era) in Makkah, Felix Arabia (today: Saudi Arabia) and he died in 633 C.E. in Yathrib (today: Madinah, Saudi Arabia).

"A. His names: When he was born, his grandfather, Abdul Mutalib, gave him the name Muhammad. And it means 'praised one' or 'praising one.' He was later called 'As-Saddiq' (the Truthful) by all of those who knew of his truthful and honest nature. He always said only the truth. He was also called 'Al-Amin' (the Trustworthy) due to his integrity and always upholding any trust given to him. When the tribes were battling against each other, both sides would entrust him with their possessions during the fighting, even if it might be against some of his own tribesmen, because they knew he would always uphold any trust given to him. All of his names indicated the very nature of a man who was praised for his honesty, integrity and trustworthiness. He was also well known for advocating the reconciliation of kinship and relationships. He ordered his followers to always honor the 'ties of the wombs' (siblings and other close relatives).

"Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, taught that Jesus, peace and blessings be upon him, was the immaculate conception and miracle birth of Mary, and that she was the best creation of Almighty God. He insisted even to the Jews of Madinah, that Jesus, peace and blessings be upon him, was the Messiah, the Christ, the one predicted to come in their Torah (Old Testament). He also taught that Jesus, peace and blessings be upon him, did many miracles by the permission of Almighty God, curing the lepers, restoring sight to the blind and even bringing a dead man back to life, and he was not dead, rather Almighty God had raised him up. He also predicted Jesus, peace and blessings be upon him, is going to return again in the Last Days to lead the true believers in a victory over the evil and unrighteous people, and he will destroy the Anti-Christ.

"PLUS...

"Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, forbade any killing, even when his followers were being killed, until the orders for retaliation came from Allah. Even then the limits were clearly spelled out and only those engaged in active combat against the Muslims or Islam were to be fought in combat. And even then, only according to very strict rules from Allah.

Charles Kastriot
August 6 at 11:18pm
"My sources are the Koran and Hadiths. Koran Chapter 4:34 authorizes wife-beating. Mohamadan women are regularly brutalized for refusing to follow Mohamad's (May he burn in Hell forever) commandment (Koran 24:31) to cover themselves completely. Mo (MHBHF) urged murder of his enemies in Koran (2:244, 2:191, 2:216, 4:76, 4:89, 5:33, 9:5, 9:73, 9:111 and 9:123, in addition to numerous others). So where do you obtain your phony Islamic propaganda?

"Mohamadan men hold total authority over their wives according to Koran 4:34. Therefore, a man can prevent his wives from holding jobs thus being totally dependent on his support. This is a common tactic to keep Mohamadan women dependent on their husband despite his infidelity (polygyny) and his Koran-authorized beatings.

"Where are the accounts of eyewitnesses who claimed to have seen or heard Allah's alleged 'revelations' to Mo (MHBHF)? NO ONE ELSE heard Mo's so-called 'revelations'. He claimed to be alone whenever Allah allegedly gave him a message. That is a suspiciously convenient cover for such a huckster like Mo (MHBHF). He fabricated supposedly divine messages whenever he wanted something like larger portions of stolen goods, taking someone else's wife and such criminal behavior."

Mohammad Irfaan
Today at 4:26am

"Hey seems you invented your own false book where you quoting from.
Islam is against beating of the wife, the Holy Book of Al-Mighty Allah the Al-Qur'an is against the beating of the wife.

"A women if she wishes can work and in Islam there is not stopping. Islam has put the financial burden on the Husband, its the Husband's duty to provide food and shelter for the women, if the women earns money too she is not oblighed to support the Husband, if she wishes fair enough else it is not compulsory to give her money to the Husband. Islam AllhamdiAllah has given huge respect to women, we Muslims cover our women and its something that Muslim women prefer, unlike the western society, they love to display their mothers, daughters and wives nude on tv.

"Islam is pure and a solution for Mankind!"

Charles Kastriot
August 10, 2009 at 10:47am
"I did not invent a false book for those quotes. I typed quotes from Mohamad's (May he burn in Hell forever) false book. Since you obviously never read his loathsome fabrication or are simply lying about its contents, I will spell out the entire Koranic verse 4:34.
"'Men stand superior to women in that God hath preferred some of them over others, and in that they expend of their wealth: and the virtuous women, devoted, careful (in their husbands') absence, as God has cared for them. But those whose perverseness ye fear, admonish them and remove them into bed-chambers and beat them; but if they submit to you, then do not seek a way against them; verily, God is high and great.'

"Since I provided Koranic evidence proving Islamic sanctioning of wife-beating, I dare you to provide any Koranic verse giving women the right to work even if her husband objects to that.

"Where have you seen women nude on television? I can tell you that in my country, the United States, NO ONE, female or male, is allowed to appear nude on over-the-air broadcast or basic cable television.

"Yes, you Mohamadans cover your women, just like civilized people cover furniture. That is logical since you savages consider women as objects to be collected like multiple possessions (Koran 4:3) then exploited sexually (Koran 2:223).

"Islam is pure evil and the bane of humanity!"

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